Comments on: Cylon Nirvana? http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/ Each week we discuss the happenings and storyline of Battlestar Galactica in a multi-host talk-radio-style format. This podcast is spoiler-free, though we do discuss information from all current broadcast episodes. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:36:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: TAbby http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-164487 TAbby Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:53:06 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-164487 what is the birth and death of Cylon??? I need to know i have been doing reserch on Cylon and i cant find info on Cylonn.. what is the birth and death of Cylon??? I need to know i have been doing reserch on Cylon and i cant find info on Cylonn..

]]> By: Docthanatos http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-48242 Docthanatos Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:53:42 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-48242 I have a BA in world religions and I can give a link between Celtic music and Sanskrit. It has to do with the people of the Caucus mountains and how they spread across Asia and Europe. These were the Aryans that moved into northern India around 4000 BC. Sanskrit was there language. The Aryans also moved into northern Europe and formed many of the tribes of the area. There are DNA links between Western Chinese and Welsh descendants as well as the people of India. Of course this would be giving a lot of credit to the writers of the show. Its most likely that the Celtic music is used because it sounds pretty cool and Sanskrit might be used because it is one of the few ancient languages that is still around scholastically today and it doesn't take 45 words to say "come here" like Egyptian does. I have a BA in world religions and I can give a link between Celtic music and Sanskrit. It has to do with the people of the Caucus mountains and how they spread across Asia and Europe. These were the Aryans that moved into northern India around 4000 BC. Sanskrit was there language. The Aryans also moved into northern Europe and formed many of the tribes of the area. There are DNA links between Western Chinese and Welsh descendants as well as the people of India. Of course this would be giving a lot of credit to the writers of the show. Its most likely that the Celtic music is used because it sounds pretty cool and Sanskrit might be used because it is one of the few ancient languages that is still around scholastically today and it doesn’t take 45 words to say “come here” like Egyptian does.

]]> By: Tamago http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-3041 Tamago Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:48:14 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-3041 It seems to me that the concepts of Samsāra and Moksha fit in well with the concept that "all this has happened before, and all this will happen again." I wonder if the people (and Cylons) in Galactica accept that statement as an absolute, or if some are trying to find escape from the cycle? It seems to me that the concepts of Samsāra and Moksha fit in well with the concept that “all this has happened before, and all this will happen again.” I wonder if the people (and Cylons) in Galactica accept that statement as an absolute, or if some are trying to find escape from the cycle?

]]> By: Armando http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2756 Armando Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:36:29 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2756 eric-michael, While a lot of the music in BSG is of Celtic influence, a lot of it also displays influence of Japanese koto drumming and American minimalism (particularly as practiced by Philip Glass). Also, the Cylon base stars seem to get some sort of faux-Beethoven piano music. I'm not sure what this means for the spirituality of the BSG universe, frankly, but it is of interest to me, as a professional musician, so I thought I would comment on it. As to the topic at hand...I hadn't thought of the Cylons as approaching spirituality from a Hindu/Buddhist perspective, Audra. Very interesting connection. I always thought of them as having something closer to a Judeo-Christian (of the more fundamentalist variety at that) view on spirituality contrasted with the Hellenistic polytheism of the humans. eric-michael,

While a lot of the music in BSG is of Celtic influence, a lot of it also displays influence of Japanese koto drumming and American minimalism (particularly as practiced by Philip Glass). Also, the Cylon base stars seem to get some sort of faux-Beethoven piano music. I’m not sure what this means for the spirituality of the BSG universe, frankly, but it is of interest to me, as a professional musician, so I thought I would comment on it.

As to the topic at hand…I hadn’t thought of the Cylons as approaching spirituality from a Hindu/Buddhist perspective, Audra. Very interesting connection. I always thought of them as having something closer to a Judeo-Christian (of the more fundamentalist variety at that) view on spirituality contrasted with the Hellenistic polytheism of the humans.

]]> By: Arktis http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2699 Arktis Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:08:36 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2699 o.O Good stuff. o.O

Good stuff.

]]> By: Rich McCarty http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2692 Rich McCarty Fri, 29 Dec 2006 06:33:11 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2692 Audra, I think one of the interesting avenues of exploration here is in relation to the determined-nature of the BSG universe. For example, in at least some Hindu thought, one's dharma (duty) is predicated upon caste and life-stage (itself an expression--broadly speaking--of Brahamn manifesting as Atman). What is more, many traditions of Hinduism suggest that the cosmic story will continue to recycle over again (infinitum) even after all have achieved Moksha this time around. While this cyclical theology is distinct teaching from most of the traditional Monotheisms of the "West" (which typically offer a more linear cosmological story), we do find in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam theologians and religious scholars who advocate a divinely determined universe in a fashion not wholly dissimilar to the divine determinism of some Hindu traditions. Whether its the Asharite school of Islamic thought, or the "double-predestination" of later-Calvinists in Protestant Christianity, there are some Monotheists who hold dearly to the concept that God is so wholly the source of all things, that even apparent "choices" made by free will are only made possible by the sovereign agency of God. Both the determined cyclical nature of some Hindu thought and the radical predestinarians of Christianity and Islam always seem to show up (in some form) in the religions of BSG, perhaps especially through the Leobon character---who also seems to hold dearly to the concept of people playing the parts they have been given, and divine destiny guiding the events of life in deterministic ways. I look forward to where the writers of BSG take these concepts. There's so much room to be masterful with divine destiny without trying to figure it out and make neat and tidy conclusions. Audra, I think one of the interesting avenues of exploration here is in relation to the determined-nature of the BSG universe. For example, in at least some Hindu thought, one’s dharma (duty) is predicated upon caste and life-stage (itself an expression–broadly speaking–of Brahamn manifesting as Atman). What is more, many traditions of Hinduism suggest that the cosmic story will continue to recycle over again (infinitum) even after all have achieved Moksha this time around. While this cyclical theology is distinct teaching from most of the traditional Monotheisms of the “West” (which typically offer a more linear cosmological story), we do find in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam theologians and religious scholars who advocate a divinely determined universe in a fashion not wholly dissimilar to the divine determinism of some Hindu traditions. Whether its the Asharite school of Islamic thought, or the “double-predestination” of later-Calvinists in Protestant Christianity, there are some Monotheists who hold dearly to the concept that God is so wholly the source of all things, that even apparent “choices” made by free will are only made possible by the sovereign agency of God. Both the determined cyclical nature of some Hindu thought and the radical predestinarians of Christianity and Islam always seem to show up (in some form) in the religions of BSG, perhaps especially through the Leobon character—who also seems to hold dearly to the concept of people playing the parts they have been given, and divine destiny guiding the events of life in deterministic ways. I look forward to where the writers of BSG take these concepts. There’s so much room to be masterful with divine destiny without trying to figure it out and make neat and tidy conclusions.

]]> By: The 13th Cylon http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2664 The 13th Cylon Fri, 29 Dec 2006 03:52:06 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2664 Largento (almost like Sargento, the tasty cheese company): I'm very excited to see if that comes to be. Any extra show time is fun, and for this to be something different than the main story is even more exciting. Hopefully it's not a gimick for this magazine which is about to hit issue #1. Largento (almost like Sargento, the tasty cheese company): I’m very excited to see if that comes to be. Any extra show time is fun, and for this to be something different than the main story is even more exciting. Hopefully it’s not a gimick for this magazine which is about to hit issue #1.

]]> By: eric-michael http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2635 eric-michael Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:52:11 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2635 audra ... have you ever stopped to consider that all the music and the traditions in Battlestar are Celtic? I can't put a complete though together, but I keep thinking about the passage "all that has happened has happened before ..." and with all these references to Earth's religions makes me more exicted exactly how they're going to end this thing ... audra … have you ever stopped to consider that all the music and the traditions in Battlestar are Celtic? I can’t put a complete though together, but I keep thinking about the passage “all that has happened has happened before …” and with all these references to Earth’s religions makes me more exicted exactly how they’re going to end this thing …

]]> By: Largento http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2606 Largento Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:47:40 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2606 This is off-topic, but figured it was of interest to all: http://www.geekmonthly.com/news/2006/12/28/galactica-direct-to-video-movie-set-to-launch/ This is off-topic, but figured it was of interest to all:

http://www.geekmonthly.com/news/2006/12/28/galactica-direct-to-video-movie-set-to-launch/

]]> By: The 13th Cylon http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2586 The 13th Cylon Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:39:09 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2586 One way to achieve moksha is to have your particular Resurrection Ship get destroyed. One way to achieve moksha is to have your particular Resurrection Ship get destroyed.

]]> By: BoxytheBoxed http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2580 BoxytheBoxed Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:17:35 +0000 http://galacticawatercooler.com/2006/12/28/142/#comment-2580 only true geeks like us think about this, only us with Stargate screen savers, and a custom high res photo of centurions wallpapers only true geeks like us think about this, only us with Stargate screen savers, and a custom high res photo of centurions wallpapers

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