GWC Frak Party: “Crossroads, Part 1″
By Chuck
If you’re not already attending a Frak Party — or hosting one! – join us here for the GWC online ‘party. Or hell, even if you are watching with friends, post their comments, too! There’s room for everyone, though you’ll have to bring your own snacks…
And, since we record the podcast right after the episode, we’ll check in here first to see what you had to say in real-time. Sweet.
See you here tonight!
PS: You know how everyone’s been talking about the “roller coaster ride” through the last few episodes? I get the feeling we just topped the highest hill and we’re about to plunge right in…
March 18th, 2007 at 11:58 am
Hey, guys?
Supposedly, AICN has up some pretty major spoilers about the finale.
I’m not going to read them. I have no desire to have it ruined for me.
With that said, I’d almost recommend people do the same. This site has always been advertised as “discussing the show, up to and including the latest episode.” AICN’s spoilers are not the latest episode, obviously. They should probably stay off the site as such.
Of course, someone’s going to read ‘em, and someone is going to slip. It’s human nature — even when you are careful, things get out.
I’m just saying.. be courteous of one another. I don’t even visit this site until I get my fix on Mondays, and that’s hard enough as it is. So.. whatever your personal opinions on spoilers, keep in mind that at least some of us (*raises hand proudly*) prefer not to spoil things. =)
Okay, you may now return to your regularly scheduled Frak Party. And forgive me, GWC crew, if I’ve overstepped my bounds.
March 18th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
i posted the link with bout a birzillion warnings not to go to itbut people still will go to it. i cant wait
March 18th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Not sound silly…but crossroads? There are no roads in space.
I know dumb comment but I could not help myself.
Cavatar
“Paid for by BSG fans to elect someone other than Laura Roslin…who has never been elected as it is.â€
March 18th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
hey gang,
ready for the ride? 2 left before the big break!!!!!
March 18th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
About the spoilers…I’ve read them. I would STRONGLY urge any BSG fans NOT to read them.
March 18th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Which podcast was it that Ron Moore put down spoilers? Maybe it was his long forgotten blog. He said something along the lines of being very disappointed in the people he works with and etc etc. I’ve always admired that about him, how dedicated he is to the show and the affect it has on it’s viewers.
March 18th, 2007 at 8:40 pm
On a side note, check out the website http://www.BattlestarGalactica.com
Hacked. Damn you cylons!
March 18th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
OK there is a saw comerical on the SCI FI channel…why is that moving sci fi???
Cavatar
“Paid for by BSG fans to elect someone other than Laura Roslin…who has never been elected as it is.â€
March 18th, 2007 at 9:01 pm
Bless me, Father, for I have sinned. I read the spoilers.
All I have to say is this: I told you so.
Just kidding.
Or am I?
GO FIGHT WIN CYLONS!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Welcome to the lido deck aboard galactica
March 18th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Here we go….this place looks fancy…where is this ship in the fleet….or is Roslin dreaming again?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Bingo Cavatar haha.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Anders is a nugget???? KEWL
March 18th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Anders works on Galactica?! Since when!?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
I read the spoilers. Quite frankly, they’re a bunch of horse crap. I don’t believe much of it (save certain things regarding Roslin that have already been hinted at–which notably also explain her weird actions as of late). Other things were hinted at by specific persons of the cast who have proven (already) to be lecherous conniving persons willing to do anything for a good joke. Some of it is plausible; the thoughts of some of it are highly disturbing. One thing I will say about it: I want Billy back.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Love the radio that Tigh is tuning.. right out of the 50s antique shop.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Tori…son of Baltar
March 18th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
For a second their Baltar looked a little less Jesus Like- I thought he had a hair cut….
March 18th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
SO! Baltar is Jesus!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Well Baltar looks like Jesus.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Baltar’s getting his own cult…creepy.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Going back to the whole, Baltar is a instrument of god?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
I guess he is but what miracles? Did he turn algae into fish and bread and feed the masses?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Awe come on. Baltar doesn’t look like Jesus. Jesus looked better than that
March 18th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Baltar is JESUS!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
You said it Caleb…haha.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
How long has it been since someone got shot?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Baltar = Jesus or Charles Manson???
March 18th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
So can we expect to see a velvet Baltar painting soon?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Lol Aleigh, it is amazing what you can do with Algae!!!! I guess this ep will be all brain, no action, just a guess.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Don’t you remember reading the passage where Jesus saves the dying woman with baby stem cells?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Yay for another derivation of the Tigh/ Starbuck apartment/ 13th retro Teac Radio! I didn’t know that they come in red, then again, maybe they don’t.
Eh, Scott Peterson gets wackos proposing to him all the time, so a person who’s caused billions of deaths doesn’t surprise me too much.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
No complaints here Frank. But, I am starting to get action withdrawl. >_O
March 18th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
haha joe that was great. i am still laughing
March 18th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Does that make head Six the holy ghost?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Hey that song Anders heard….was that a possible song from Earth???
March 18th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
It is racetrack…dont tell me she finds earth?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
adama is not the head judge?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:13 pm
Cav, who knows. Radio signals do travel outside of the Earth.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Thats a hell of alot of people.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
I remember on the TOS… “Houston, this is Tranquality Base, the Eagle has landed”.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Is every episode starting with some comic relief by Hot Dog?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Oh like this attorney.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
Wow, who would want that guy for a lawyer. “THROW HIM OUT THE AIRLOCK!”
March 18th, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Hey Cav, this lawyer could work for your Campaign
March 18th, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Did anyone notice Roslyn’s smile haha!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
Interesting strategy here.. pleading guilty.. or at least appearing to.. “Justice of the mob..”
Great defense strategy here.. “I owe my life… ”
I wondered how they were going to defend him.
And we have bandits….
March 18th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
YES!
THE CYLONS ARE HERE!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
The cylons are back yeah
March 18th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
That’ll pucker your ass!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
There BACK!!!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
ACTION!!! YES!! THEY ARE BACK BABY!!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:19 pm
My vote is for Baltar=Jim Jones. They’ll move to a ship called the Jonestown.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Tigh and 6 coming up. Woo Hoo
March 18th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Rich, HAHA!! Bad, but funny.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
They’re tracking ‘em by their warp drive signature!!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
HEAD Baltar too!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
Ohh Ohh…great with 6 and ole one eye,
March 18th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
I loved the way they shot the incoming missile.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
I think she might have tweaked something…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Look at Tigh’s face.. hard as a rock..
He’s the last person you want to try to head frak!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Woo Hoo fight fight-one cage match I would love to see 6 and Tigh on pay per view
March 18th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
it kinda was a cage match. But it was just one punch…ah well
March 18th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
OK- Assuming that Head Baltar is just a figment of 6’s imagination, how in the world did he know that Tigh killed his wife? How does 6 know this? WTF?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
She did mind frak him…his lip was shaking.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Maybe it was a little early for me to say no action, as long as racetrack lives, they need to keep all the hottie pilots they have left!!!!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
That’s going to hurt in the morning
March 18th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Tigh took a shot from 6 (hereafter affectionately known as the “Ass-Kickin’-Sexy-Battle-Bot”), and keep his feet. What a tough old bastard!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
If the guards weren’t in the cell it would be a very one sided cage match.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
wraith great point… continuity error on the writer’s part?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Frakkin Awesome!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
What happened to the regular intro of the moaning women and the shots of nukes going off? I don’t even rememeber seeing the Cylonz evolved and rebelled bit.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Just to backtrack, Laura looked nice with the straight hair in the dream sequence. What was in her drink that Lee smelled? Kamalah?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Man, 6 took Tigh’s hit like it was nothing. I guess she’s built a lot more solidly than she looks
March 18th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Hey, I can just see it…head Ellen.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Uh, notice how Six never said who Tigh lost?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Six is a female Tigh I think. A HEAD ELLEN!! THAT WOULD BE SHWEET!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
The good thing about head Ellen, is that he will always know where she is.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
She didn’t say anything about him killing his wife…she just said she was gone.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Oh what a ballsy defense… trying to make Tigh look like a war criminal.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Smack down on the Admiral…cool
March 18th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
is he drunk on the stand. Music in his head? OH NO!! They are gonna think he is a crazy, one eyed, drunk.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
“Who killed Ellen?” - damn man.. that is below the belt.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
How do they know he killed her?!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Head of state - Laura Roslin
Not head Judge Admiral Adama
AKSBB - Head Six
Jesus-lookalike - head Baltar
Head badass - Saul “take your best shot” Tighe
Seems almost freudian…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
hey atleast you know he regrets it.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Tigh….a slam dunk witness…NOT
March 18th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Got to give Romo credit he’s good. Is Tigh losing it? What’s up with the music?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Ok now Tory too? What’s up with that?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
I thought Lee was in a suit in the preview??? Not a uniform.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
What is with that frakkin music!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Isn’t somebody talking to these witnesses? What to do and say before they get on the stand?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Tighe - Nam flashback?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Okay… Roslin’s aid on Galactica.. looking very conspiratorial to Anders. Now we know who tonight’s assassin is..
March 18th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Truth. justice and the Colional/American way????
March 18th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
YEAH! Tigh might be experiencing PTSD
March 18th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Lee is being initiated into a gang…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Do they have apple pie and chevrolet too Cav?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Love Romo pressing Lee on his ideals. We haven’t seen that Lee since he put a gun to Tigh’s head during the military coup. I hope he gives up whatever it is just to get the pre-whining Lee back. I miss the guy that just did what was right according to the law.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Aleigh I bet they do…they are right by the Cat that Romo has.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Romo Lampkin is an awesome character. He’s a big slime ball, but still an amazing performance.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Speaking of Tigh and the music-
What’s up with Tory and Anders and the Radio feedback?
And what’s up with the “lovey eyes” they were giving each other?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Lee’s gonna sell Roslin out, isn’t he? Right when I was starting to like him.
What’s up with this music? No way they have this storyline dead end like this after making a big ol’ deal out of it.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
I love Romo too. Hope we see more. Maybe a spinoff Galactica L&O?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Hmm. Why am I getting a vibe from Tori that she’s jealous of
Anders w/Seelix (and why is Seelix all flirty with Anders??? Too
soon, man, too soon).
Nice to see Anders..
Nice to see Head Baltar
Loved the missile shot
March 18th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Good to see Anders, looks like he is back flirting again!!!!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Again what’s up with the music? I’ve counted Tigh and Anders Tory for a split second. That can’t just be Tigh going nuts.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Drunky…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Brokeback Galactica? Wait that was bad…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
LOL at Galactica L&O
March 18th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Galactica L&O Cyclon Skinjob Eradication Unit
March 18th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
That is a really good idea from Lee.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
More adama vs adama
March 18th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Another Adama square off…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Wow…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
HOLY FRAK!! Lee’s resigning his commission!?!?!??!?!!?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Don’t do it Lee!!
Any bets that after this is over, they kiss and make up?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
I think he would serve under a man who would question his integrity.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
We aren’t getting season 1 Lee back, we’re getting mini-series Lee!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Guess so…Helo as CAG again!? HAHA!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
Did anyone notice the wood ship behind adama that he supposedly broke?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
Whoever called the Kamalah earlier goes to the head of the class!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
I wonder if they have dry cleaning services in the Fleet. This case most be leading to amazing profit to him/her.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
I wonder what Dee thinks of her hubby’s new line of work?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Careful where you leave your thermos! I knew something was up there.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Did Roslin just threaten Lee?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
OH YEAH…..
“Paid for by BSG fans to elect someone other than Laura Roslin…who has never been elected as it is.â€
March 18th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
Roslin kicks ass! SHE IS THE DIEING LEADER AGAIN!!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
And our dying leader is back boys and girls
March 18th, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Oh my gosh! I’m seriously teary eyed again and we have our dyling leader back. I’m such a Roslin fanboy, I admit it. I didn’t see that one coming AT ALL. I’m pretty sad now.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
Holy crap. Is her death the real “death” this season?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
her pres approval will go up again, sorry Cav.
This is messin with my head, I don’t know who to hate anymore!!!!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
I’m glad Admiral Adama isn’t dominating the panel, it’s good for him to
not have the final say so on stuff, he’s too used to getting his way.
The viciousness between the Adama boys seemed a little forced, it was
not that long ago that they were fairly close. Now that they’ve decided to
have Lee resign, though, I hope they run with that and we see what else
that boy can do.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Matt….no I did not…
maybe he fixed it.
Is Dee leaving Lee?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Um.. I think Dee is pissed about her hubby’s new line of work
March 18th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Gee Dee is a little upset at Lee she looks like she is going to flee
March 18th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
wow they are getting the show back on track with all the original ideas. i’m impressed
March 18th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Whoa, Dee’s movin’ out?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Have to say, the boy looks good in a crisp, white shirt, dark pants and
shiny belt buckle…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
I think the dying president simpathy numbers is dependent on one things, is Kamala=weed, or Kamala=Crack? Think about it.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Are those snakes on her podium…oh wait I as having a flashback.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Whoa, Tori’s losing it (enough of this craaaaaap)
March 18th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
I like tory’s lips…I want more tory. droool.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
Mind fraks for everyone!
March 18th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
father son conflict, rosling dying, cylons in pursuit, righteous Lee, dsyfuntional Tigh… it’s like it’s season one again
March 18th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Incert officer here…helo is XO
so is hot dog the new CAG?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
All of you guys know that Airlock is just missing the hell outta Billy right about now…
March 18th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
CAG my lily white rear-end.. he’s the XO..
Racetrack CAG?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Does anyone else think that Tigh hearing the radio has something to do with him being a Cylon?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Good for dee. A storm? another reference? Tori, and Tigh and loosing it.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Or maybe there’s a cylon tracking device in the ship?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Uh….what?
March 18th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Their finally explaining why everyones gone nuts this season.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
wow…over already
March 18th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
The Kamalah really explains Roslin’s vibe.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
I wonder if the Colonies have a 25th Amendment to their Constitution.. in walks Tom Zarek back into power… with Lee Adama as his chief of staff.
March 18th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Poor Tigh! He’s going bananas.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
Lee resigned?
Adama vs. Adama?
Roslin’s dying again?
Helo XO again?
Tigh gone nuts?
Massive Cylon attack?
Next Sunday is going to be the pinnacle of BSG history since New Caprica.
Oh, and I wouldn’t mind chatting with other BSG fans about the episode tonight. My e-mail is thatcraziegie@hotmail.com - add me to MSN!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
That storm reference was a lot like Athena’s “There’s something dark coming.” comment to Helo just before the mission to recover the resistance on Caprica.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
HailBaltar he wasn’t the only one though. Are we going to throw Tory and Anders in there too? I’m not saying you’re wrong but that’s three people who heard at least a bit. Maybe Tigh has a weird filling in his teeth and is broadcasting radio and Tory and Anders heard it too.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
WTF just happened on that preview?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
What!? Who said that they’re Cylons? BAHH! I can’t handle this next week. Next week’s gonna be the motherload…
March 18th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Okay, so it’s actually thatcrazigie@hotmail.com
March 18th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Did Anders just say…its true we’re cylons?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Could it be that everyone that hears the mystery music is a Cylon?
Saul, Tori(?), Anders (I thought Anders was a Cylon when we first
met him — it seemed poignant to have Starbuck fight to return and
rescue him only to have him turn out to be a Cylon).
Ok, whoa, I won’t any anything that happens from the preview they
just showed, but the end bit was interesting..looks good
March 18th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Whoa are Tory, Anders, *and* Tigh Cylons?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
no
March 18th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Cav,
Yes he did.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Preview for next weeks episode-
Anders says “It’s true… we’re cylons”?
Dream sequence, or what?!?
I need it to be next week NOW!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
They cut it to make you think that.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Huh? Frak, what? That preview was way too incriminating!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
They’re the reject Cylons. Tigh’s a frakked up throw away, if he is.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Hmm gonna make you wait to see the verdict of course, but I’m placing bets immediately that he’s voted guilty.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Rube, great call, I think you may be on to something.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Cavatar, I think that was Chief’s voice
March 18th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
The music seems a little too obvious, there’s something more there than a bunch of characters being cylons. Since when do previews actually give us the correct information?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
yeah that preview dromped a huge bombshell
Anders saying something like “we are Cylons”???
March 18th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
I thought it was the Chief too. If so, it might explain why he and Boomer were frakking each other early in the show.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Well, it could be Anders saying it ironically
March 18th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Carol, I agree with you. That sounded more like Chief than Anders.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Yeah definitely Chief’s voice
March 18th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
166 hours till the next episode i dont know how i am going to make it.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
There’s no way Tigh could be a cylon… He has known Bill since they were young. They fought in the first cylon war together, right?
Although… That was what, 40 years ago? were they 10 years old when they joined the military?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Oh yeah he is gonna probably not get off. The Cylons might show up and take him again. Maybe Caprica Six will go back too.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Does anyone else have an unsatisfied adrenaline rush?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
What if the thing that’s driving people nuts is the same thing that the Cylons are tracking. They’re not traking the ship they’re tracking the people.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
Sounded like Chief to me…that is what I thought when I heard it I went CHIEF!!!!!! NOOOOOO—-Boy how would Cally handle it?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Its gonna be a fraking HURRICANE next week.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Wraith-planted memories maybe?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Tigh was in cylon detention for awhile, who knows what they could have done to him there. Maybe he just has a cylon ipod in his head
March 18th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Wellll, playing devil’s advocate, what if Tigh has false memories, and
further, what if cylons can place false memories in humans, as well?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Why did Roslin’s cancer return just now? Supposedly she was cured - is there something causing the cancer - Six perhaps?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
pretty amazing episode, for some reason however, it had a comic book feel to it.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Carol I agree—planted memories.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Well, they say you’re never cured from cancer, that it only goes into remission- right?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
So if Roslin has cancer she CANT be a cylon right?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
It’s too convenient that it returned right now. There has to be a Cylon/prophetic cause.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Joe- I’m right there with you, man! Talk about galacticus-interruptus… this episode just leaves you wanting more!
Retro- Sounds like a good theory; please elaborate. Are they tracking the people because they are sleepers, or do you think that there is some kind of beacon on the ship that affects some people adversely?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
never say never aleigh but I think you are probably right
March 18th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
so…I think it was Anders voice not Chiefs—Im almost positive. So if we make the link between hearing music and being a Cylon- Who’s all a Cylon then?
(if this is true– all hypothetical)
March 18th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
What if the attack by the Cylons happens at the end of the ep, and we’re left with 10 months of speculation?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
jimtothehum-
Tigh, Anders, and Tory (hypotheticaly)
March 18th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
What happens? No Lee, Kara or Kat in cockpits? No Tigh as XO? They’re all Frakked!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
You’re kidding? Lee would jump into a raptor in that suit if he had to.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
(First Time Commenter)
Just throwing it out there -
Think back to New Caprica. We know Tigh was detained by the Cylons there. The Cylon occupation was of a sufficient length that we don’t know for sure if Tory and Anders were ever detained for, say, a brief period of time. Let’s say if that did happen - could the Cylons have knocked them out and planted something in their minds, regarding the music they’re hearing?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Dan,
I tried both addresses both came back undeliverable
March 18th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Lee made a bad move. After this trial’s over, it’s gonna be the kitty litter ship for him!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Can’t wait till next week. This episode just dropped a bunch of questions unanswered. What’s up with Tigh and Anders and Tori? Did not see that development coming.
We haven’t had any story threads involving Tigh in a long while. I hope they resolve at least that one next week. Multiple reveals of Cylons?
I wished they had shown the last 2 episodes back to back. This one just felt like one big setup.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
I had a feeling Anders was a Cylon for a while now but it was only recently that I was listening to the Podcast and someone suggested Tigh would be the most ironic. I am blown away by the fact that Tori, Anders and Tigh make 3 of the final 5. Did I jump the gun?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Lee made a move he thought was necessary. One of the major drivers of the story has been father-son tension, both between Lee and Bill Adama, and the father (Human) - son (Cylon) overall tension. Aren’t they connected?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
If Tori, Anders, and Tigh are 3 of the 5, maybe Starbuck is 4, leaving one more? Roslin anyone?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
I’m with you Luc, I feel like I was blindfolded and sent up a mountain!!!!
long time till next Sunday!!!
Lets not forget that next week is it for a really long time!!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
TORY IS STARBUCK!
Anders looked at her at the bar, at the time I thought it was an attraction, but it was how she ordered her drink. The way SB did.
The ‘vulture’ speech at the press conference, totally starbuck.
“Run a comb through your hair every couple of days.” Starbuck.
On the trailer for next week, Anders saying “Its true, we’re all Cylons”.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:29 pm
I’m afraid all the Anders people will be sorely disappointed when they find out that Chief and Cally have hybrid #2
March 18th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Not that i agree or nothing, but we all better get ready to the idea of Halo as Admiral and supreme commander of the fleet. It gets better, and all oracles in the fleet better look out for their jobs, Mr. Halo can also predict the future! WHAT’S NEXT?!!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:33 pm
Oh no Dr. Kottle is out sick for the week? What’s that Helo? You learned how to treat deadly wounds on Caprica? Dr. Helo, MD.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
Well let’s run it down for Helo and his jobs
ECO
XO
Raptor Pilot
OOD
Keeper of Refugees
CAG
and finally
Oracle
He’s a busy man
March 18th, 2007 at 10:35 pm
Does anyone remember that music from New Caprica? If the music was playing while implants were being placed it could be a sub conscious memory. Since Tigh was in prison longer the effect might be stronger with him.
We use music as a weapon to drive people crazy ourselves.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:35 pm
Frank…just saw the lawer could work for my campaign post.
Sorry I missed it…but you are right.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
Hey guys,
Sorry I missed the party. The computer’s in a different room than where I was watching. Still….DAMN! When 11;00 hit and Tigh said “it’s in the fraking ship” I just did not want it to be the end.
Can’t wait till next week….except that after that I’m going to have to wait till January. ;-(
March 18th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
What’s that?! All prostitutes on strike? Helo?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Just started re-watching it. The Laura cancel revelation puts that whole
beginning dream of her chasing after Hera in context, eh? She’s, at
least subconsciously worried that Athena won’t let Hera give her blood
for the cause again.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
So this has gotta be a record number of comments for a single entry on GWC. Helo? Can you check for us?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:42 pm
Carol, that makes sense. I wonder, though, if the Cylons are causing her cancer?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Unless they come up with one hell of a explaination I will be disappointed if the final five turn out to be anyone in the fleet. The other Cylons would know who they are…including Athena…who could pick them out on sight. There would also be no explaination for their presence in the temple. It would be a real “jump the shark” moment.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
sorry Joe, he’s busy checking out his new Fleet Admiral uniform!!!!, then he is getting measured for a new suit for when he becomes President!!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
Retro, the other seven don’t know who the final five are.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
That’s the point…if they are in the fleet they would know who they are.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Retro, 1st rule of Final Five Fight Club is we don’t think about the the Final Five. Unless you are Brother Cavil and that’s only a maybe. They’ve established in previous episodes that they don’t know who they are thus Deanna’s obession with killing herself to see them in the space between life and death.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
No Cylon is ever surprised to find out that someone else is a Cylon.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Frnak…LOL for when he becomes President.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Maybe this whole season has been a dream and we’ll see Tigh wake up on New Caprica with a hangover - kind of a “Who shot JR” moment.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
I’m thinkin’ the ‘it’s true, we’re cylons’ thing will be something where they
realize that Everyone is a Cylon, for some definition of Cylon, instead of
a small group being revealed.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
What if Helo is really just imagining all this while stranded on Caprica suffering from radiation overdose. The Helo Show, anyone? (Truman Show)
March 18th, 2007 at 10:51 pm
Re-watching (gotta love TiVO and DVRs) and I’ll buy off on the dream sequence being Roslin’s fear that Athena won’t let Hera participate in another transfusion. Then 6 comes and scoops Hera away….
March 18th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
I guess it is safe to say that this is a good episode, maybe i shouldn’t have doubted RDM, but after “the woman king”, I had some doubts about this season, but holy frak they have been kicking us for a few weeks now!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
HailBaltar…
The dream was Bobby dying, not JR. It was Pam’s half sister Katherine Wentworth who ran him down with a car.
When the dream ended, Pam wakes up to see Bobby in the shower.
Sorry I was a big fan of Dallas…dont ask me why or how considering I am under 30 years of age.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
I hoping that the Admiral is being affected also. It would make the killing Cally thing make a little more since. He was just out of his fraking mind.
Roslin’s a possibility too. She got a real Sybilesk thing going on. All smiles one minute. Airlocks and venom the next.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
As far as I understand it, I’m with Joe on this, no one knows who the final five are except D’anna who was boxed.
Do we even know if they would allie with the Cylons?
March 18th, 2007 at 10:55 pm
No way that this past season was a dream.. no FRAKIN’ way
March 18th, 2007 at 10:55 pm
No problem Cavatar, but you get my point
March 18th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
I like what you are thinking Carol, everyone is a cylon, that just makes me confused about the whole music thing. Tigh, Anders, and Tory can hear it, and noone else can. What is going on? Someone either push me out of an airlock or make it be next week already!!!!
March 18th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
It could end up being like B5, with the Shadow war… both sides want to claim the 5 but they end up bringing everyone together.
March 18th, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Carol I posted a wild theory awhile back that the final five were part of the 13th tribe that had returned from Earth and that ’s why the 12 Colonies had all the signs and scriptures that they couldn’t have gotten if the 13th tribe just went off and never returned. I think the humans and cylon are a lot more intertwined than either want to admit. It’s all along the ” all of this has happened before…” idea. I think you are right and that there is common heritage going back a long time in the cycle.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Lt. Slingshot, that is a great theory!
March 18th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
I’m still waiting for Count Iblis to show up. That white light in Starbuck’s face before she go boom reminded me of those white ball of light from the original show.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Question: How would Lee know what Kamalah smells like?
March 18th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
The Cylons were numbered as they were made. What is the current order and which numbers are missing?
March 18th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
I liked the Count Iblis episode from he old show.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Rube, Lee was with her after the first Mutiny. I guess we are supposed to assume that he knew what she was taking when they were on the run together, but that is just a guess.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Yeah, Frank, the music thing is odd. I like Retros theory about possibly
some people being implanted with little thingies while on New Caprica.
Notice that all of the people who can hear the music (that we know of
so far), were on New Caprica, instead of being off with Admiral Adama.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Maybe Lee got a smell of it back when the Lee broke Roslin out of Jail when he was the legal president in season two.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
Question… I can’t remember what that girls name is who is flirting with Anders, the one who was just promoted?
March 18th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
So does anyone know why some people think Baltar is a god???
March 18th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Frank…
Is is Seelka or something to that effect.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Some people will believe anything.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
I’m not sure Cav, but if I could see Tricia Helfer in my head, I might start thinking of myself as holy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 18th, 2007 at 11:09 pm
If I had Tricia Helfer in my head I would never leave my bedroom!!!
March 18th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
Cavatar - maybe they’re hearing the music.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
Ok, tossing out an alternative theory on the weirdo Anders/Tori vibe.
There were some ‘knowing’ looks going on there, and Tori is having
trouble sleeping. Could it be guilt on her part? Perhaps Anders and
Tori were being ‘friendly’, pre-Maelstrom, occasionally. Anders had been
tossed out by Kara, largely. We’ve never seen Tori involved with
anyone. A little soap-like, admittedly. I dunno. Tori just seems
steeped in guilt. What has she done? She’s capable of lots of sneaky
stuff. Maybe she’s blowing up lawyers? (Kelley’s probably not the only
one making things go boom). Perhaps she’s working with Anders on
rabble-rousing/explosive. Anders is certainly capable and he’d have an
easier time with any ‘guilt’.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
Vote Baltar….2 for the price of one.
“Paid for by BSG fans to elect someone other than Laura Roslin…who has never been elected as it is.â€
March 18th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
Baltar is a god because he cured cancer, Cavatar
March 18th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Hearing the music = drinking the kool-aid
March 18th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Amen Frank
March 18th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
Carol…I like that idea.
All the more reason not to trust Roslin.
LOL…maybe Retro
“Paid for by BSG fans to elect someone other than Laura Roslin…who has never been elected as it is.â€
March 18th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
I want to go back and just listen to all the episodes to find out where they picked up that music. I’m sure it’s been used before.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Wasn’t Tori in on the election rigging scheme???
Also, concerning Baltar’s trial..
Tight and Roslin have been discredited as witnesses but you got Gata and 6 (remember she turned state’s evidence to keep from getting airlocked) coming up.. Baltar will be found guilty..
if not.. well.. Tori and Anders will make sure that justice will be served.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Did anyone else notice that Baltar’s lawyer planted the guy in the audience. The guy yelled on cue.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Cav,
I think I see a pattern forming!!!!! I am guessing you don’t like ole Laura Much.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Retro if you find it please let us know. I really like what McCreary has done on the show and that one seemed new but I’ve been wrong more times that I’d like to admit.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Yeah, that sounded sort of like the Shape of Things to Come actually, which would be an interesting choice considering the other scenes it’s been used in.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
Baltar should have hired Matlock
March 18th, 2007 at 11:21 pm
I’m rewatching and I’m a little concerned that Tori is the one supplying Roslin’s drink.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Frank…
I don’t like what she as done as President. It is one thing to do a bad job, like Baltar. Is another thing to put yourself up above the rest of the humans as better, and to do an end run around things like due process and human rights.
In many ways Roslin is like another President I can mention from the real world.
Cavatar
March 18th, 2007 at 11:23 pm
She’s not THAT bad.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:25 pm
“Question… I can’t remember what that girls name is who is flirting with Anders, the one who was just promoted?”
Seelix (http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Diana_Seelix)
March 18th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
It would be funny if Baltar was in the cell humming the music.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
Retro…
She is really not that far off… after all she is content with being the Queen. Remember she has no problem with jobs being passed from parent to child.
“Paid for by BSG fans to elect someone other than Laura Roslin…who has never been elected as it is.â€
March 18th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
We know that before her death in “Rapture”, Three apologized to one of the Five. This means she’s had issues with that person before, whether Cylon or Human. I don’t recall Tigh or Tory having a substantial scene with Three before “Rapture”. But Anders did, in “Downloaded”. So that’s one possibility.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:29 pm
I am so mad at Lee right now though, Roslin is so right what happened to the Capt. Apollo we all thought we knew. Also why the hell is Lee still on galactica he just gave up his military commission. He either needs to get off the ship or go down and live in Helo-land with the rest of the civilians.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Any regular posters know I normally save my comments for the cast instead of the frak party but I have to admit this was fun! I should have done this before. Now I’m going to take a healthy swig from Roslin’s kamalah thermos and hit the hay.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Roslin is a more complex character than some would suggest here. I’m not a huge fan, but anyone in her situation would be having similar problems dealing with a presidency. Her regime is flawed, but it may be the structure of the system rather than her.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:33 pm
Wait, now that Laura is the Dyling Leader again and it’s said that she won’t make it to Earth, I guess we’ll be getting some episodes (possibly, or a part of the last episode) without Laura Roslin! Nooo! Not having Starbuck around is bad enough, but we’re also going to miss our leader.
I loved what Laura said to that reporter asking how much time she had left. It reminded me of the last scene in Blade Runner where Edward James Olmos’ character tells Harrison Ford “It’s too bad she won’t live! But then again, who does?”
March 18th, 2007 at 11:35 pm
Long live the Queen!!!!
“Paid for by BSG fans to elect someone other than Laura Roslin…who has never been elected as it is.â€
March 18th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Not necessarily. I already submitted a theory to a podcast in which Deanna is looking into the faces of the “gods”. She’s realizing that the Cylons belief in their god has been completely wrong. Like a Christian finding out the Zeus is still in charge.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:42 pm
Cavatar,
She is not a Queen.
So lets do this right.
Long live the President.
So say we all!
Paid for by Republican Earthlings for Laura Roslin.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:42 pm
Ok, 20 minutes until the show airs on the West Coast.
West Coast, baby! Woooooo (I am a cylon).
March 18th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
So say we all!!
Paid for by Earthlings for Laura Roslin
March 18th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Matt…
Roslin would cernaintly be a Republican….
Wants of slave labor, no middle class, the taking away of abortion, and the loss of many rights…
yes that does sound familar.
“Paid for by BSG fans to elect someone other than Laura Roslin…who has never been elected as it is.â€
March 18th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Retro -
Your point does make better sense, I admit. It recalls to me the soul-searching Three went through prior to “Rapture”. I suspect the one that Three spoke to is a major character. Could it be Adama? Noting the use of Zeus, we know Adama has been referred to as Zeus before, primarily by Zarek.
I suppose this doesnt make much sense; I’m trying to look at this from every different way possible.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Oh…did I forget election stealing???
March 18th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
On a different subject now…is Helo a Major now?
March 19th, 2007 at 12:01 am
Cavatar,
Well I would disagree with you on what the Republican Party stands for but that is neither here nor there. Roslin is a conservative like I stated before she is for keeping the status quo. She has been a remarkable leader. She has managed an unmanageable situation. She is the fleet’s only hope of survival. She knows how to manage the political reality with the military reality. She is the only person in that fleet that has been able to keep the delicate balance of security and personal freedom. Everyone in the fleet still has all of the basic liberties provided to them under the articles, which is amazing under the current circumstances.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:03 am
Cavatar,
I don’t believe Helo is a major. I think he is still a captain.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:06 am
If Helo is XO, wouldn’t he be a Colonel? But just because somebody gets a promotion in position doesn’t mean they automatically get the rank that is normally associated with the position.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:12 am
Rube…. I know and agree.
However with Adama resigning his commission, it would not be to much of a strech for him to promote someone.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:24 am
So, am I the only one that was decidedly depressed after this episode was done? I mean, c’mon! We’re going back to the cancer thing and Lee and the Admiral are at odds again. We’re back to the beginning just without Starbuck’s awesomeness to make everything better. My mom asked me if I was okay today because she found out Starbuck died. It was pretty funny and yet I was still rather sad. I’m totally in mourning.
Also, I totally want to make a replica of the card the Admiral had from Starbuck!! That would be awesome!
Also, if you haven’t seen it, check out this guy’s gallery on Deviant Art: http://ratscape.deviantart.com/
Frakkin’ awesome fanart here, guys.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:24 am
shackle that thing!
March 19th, 2007 at 12:27 am
Artemekiia, you do make some good points.
Almost at 30 posts…wow
March 19th, 2007 at 12:36 am
Thanks! I also think that perhaps Katee Sackhoff left the show because it was too hasty the way they tried to wrap up all Starbuck’s loose ends in one episode. They didn’t build to it like I would’ve preferred.
They did warn us in the season 3 gag reel, which is just PRICELESS.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:38 am
Cavatar
300 and counting!! What a night!!!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 12:42 am
Oh yeah…hell of a night
March 19th, 2007 at 12:45 am
Just about two hours till the podcast is out. I hate the wait.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:45 am
Yeah I know what you mean buddy…to bad they cant do it live.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:45 am
Oh, really? I didn’t know it comes out that fast.
March 19th, 2007 at 12:47 am
I posted this in the President Approval blog by mistake, so I am posting it here again. When Apollo resigned did anyone else notice that behind Adm. Adama was the wooden ship that he broke in “The Son Also Rises�
March 19th, 2007 at 12:49 am
Artemekia,
Yep, they are usually out by about 3:30am
March 19th, 2007 at 1:05 am
Matt/Artemekia/All: Indeed. The ‘cast is in post right now. It’s taking a little longer because it’s our longest ‘cast to date — a little over an hour and a half. There was just a lot to say, and Lawyer Bill joined us again with an analysis of the court portion of the evening.
Anyway, don’t despair if it’s a little later than normal tonight. It’s coming — there’s just more to enjoy.
March 19th, 2007 at 1:12 am
Chuck,
Thanks for the notice. I am addicted to the Podcast. It is Crazy. It is now part of my Sunday routine to stay up all night waiting for it to come out.
March 19th, 2007 at 1:12 am
Way cool Chuck…I love the long podcasts
March 19th, 2007 at 3:10 am
yes! a longer podcast! more time for me to forget about how much time is there until the next episode! can’t wait